In large bowl, mix shortening and sugar until smooth. Add eggs and mix. Add baking soda,cinnamon, cloves and cocoa - mix well. Stir in molasses, then add water.
Add flour, one cup at a time - stir in well.
Cover and refrigerate for 2-3 hours.
Take out small amount of dough at a time - roll out to 1/4 -1/2" thickness on a floured surface. Cut with a floured doughnut cutter. Place on a baking sheet (greased if not Teflon)
Bake 10 minutes - 350 º
Cool on brown bag if you have one.
Make a frosting of Crisco, confectioners sugar, vanilla and milk.
Ice cookies on bottom side for a flatter surface.